CHRISTIAN VANDER
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1979-??-?? - Paris, FR - Riverbop - The Riverbop Tapes 1979-1980 - Alien - sbd? (61m)
Christian Vander, Benoit Widemann, Dominique Bertram, Patrick Gauthier?, Jean Pierre Fouquey?, JM Kajdan?

1) Naima (14:43) *
2)
Going Far (6:23) **
3)
Coming Back Home (6:54) ***
4)
Sama Layuca (17:52) $
5)
Wild Life (16:01)

* [Cut at 12:42].
** Fades out on applause.
*** [Cut].
$ [Cuts in on start].

Source: ? low gen cassette > CDR > flac.
[1979 - Riverbop, Paris] Torrent on Dime by Olvator.
No SBE's - TLH analysis
"I believe this is all sourced from a soundboards, but I might be wrong. They might also be audiences. In any case there is quite some high range noise (...) I am not sure about the line-up of the 1979 show, but for sure it has CV, Bertram and Wideman".
Ork Alarm lists 6 shows in Paris at Campagne-Premičre by Alien Quintet in 1979 (June 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30), no recording.


1980-01-17 - Paris, FR - Riverbop - The Riverbop Tapes 1979-1980 - Alien - aud (93m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Dominique Bertram, Réne Garber, Arrigo Lorenzi

Disc 1:

1) Impressions (17:14)
2)
Stratus (13:25)
3)
Wild Life (12:21) *
4)
Sama Layuca (Part 1) (3:41) **

Disc 2:

1) Sama Layuca (Part 2) (12:45) ***
2)
Coming Back Home (12:41) $
3)
Fred (11:01) $
4)
Wild Life (coupe) (10:11) =

* [Cut].
** [Cuts in on start]. [Cut].
*** [Cuts in]. [Cut? 0:20?]. [Cut on applause].
$ [Cut on applause].
= [Cuts in on start]. [Cut].

Source: ? low gen cassette > CDR > flac.
[1980-01-17 - Riverbop, Paris] Torrent on Dime by Olvator.
No SBE's - TLH analysis
"...Everything clearly audible. There is kind of a buzz present in the 1980 tape, which might come from an instrument. For the 1980 show, ORK ALARM lists CV, Bertram, Garber and A. Lorenzi, but I would certainly add Wideman to that list as well".
Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm website.


1981-12-31 - Paris, FR - Jazz Unite - Alien - sbd (133m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Jean Pierre Fouquey?, Jean-François Jenny-Clarke?

Disc 1:

1) Six Milliard Dollars (10:17)
2)
Effendi (10:09) *
3)
For Tomorrow (10:40)
4)
The Greeting (8:37)
5)
Everytime We Say Goodbye (9:11)
6)
Opus (12:16)

Disc 2:

1) Inception (15:19) **
2)
? (5:16)
3)
Passion Dance (16:16)
4) Footprints (12:23) ***
5)
Naima (5:54) ***
6)
Fred (7:38) ***
7)
Impressions (10:00)

All tracks on side 1 fade out on applause.
* "Merci beaucoup, nous allons jouer un theme de McCoy Tyner qui s'intitule Effendi".
** Glitch at 3:08. [Cut on applause].
*** Fades out on applause.

Source: ? low gen cassette > CDR > flac.
[Alien Paris 31-12-1981] Originally shared as torrent on Dime by Olvator (flac download from "Zeuhl and beyond" blog).
No SBE's - True lossless source.
"Very good sounding soundboard tape. Amazingly enough, Benoit Wideman does not seem to be on this (...)
My guess is that this is Cullaz on bass, Fouquey on piano and CV on drums".
Show not yet listed on Ork Alarm (lineup for Christian Vander Trio Dec 1981: Vander, Alby Cullaz, J-P Fouquey).


1983-10-28 - Bordeaux, FR - Salle De Fetes Du Grand Parc -
Festival "Boulevard Du Rock 1983" - aud? -
Offering - OFF 3 (83m) (2cd)
Christian Vander
, Stella Vander, Simon Goubert, Guy Khalifa, Sydney Thiam, François Kokelaere

Disc 1:

1) Offering (Part 1) (9:14)
2) Earth (Névrose) (5:19)
3) Joia (Le Chant Du Sorcier) (12:16)
4) C'Est Pour Nous (10:17)
5) Call From The Darkness (Ooh Ooh Baby) (7:39) **

Disc 2:

1) Another Day (38:16)

* "Entre Magma et Alien...magie noire...magie blanche...magie tout court...voici Offering".
** Fades out.

Source: Internet blog download (no further info).
[OFF 3 - Salle des Fętes... - BORDEAUX - 281083] Flac downloaded from "Zeuhl Music" blog.
No SBE's - Trader's Little helper detects lossy source.
Show and recordings listed on Ork Alarm website (+ Uppsala).


1986-11-20 - Mulhouse, FR - Bel Air - Christian Vander Trio - aud (96m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Francis Lockwood, Alby Cullaz

1) tuning up (0:36) *
2)
One Down, One Up (5:25)
3)
Footprints (13:46)
4)
Impressions (8:41)
5)
Moments Notice (5:10)
6)
piano solo (10:18)
7)
All Blues (18:57)
8)
Milestones (10:53)
9)
Body And Soul (11:08)
10) ? (11:46)

* [Cut].

Source: TDK SA90> Pioneer CT-W53OR> Audacity 1.2.6> wave> FLACFrontend> flac.
Original audience recording by Nadir_53.
[Christian_Vander_Trio_-_1986-11-20_-_Bel_Air,_Mulhouse,_France] Torrent on Dime by Nadir_53.
True lossless source.
"Here, the respected Zeuhl drummer of Magma and Offering fame exercises his skills in an acoustic jazz trio".
Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm website.


1987-11-14 - Wien, OS - Szene Wien - aud - Offering - OFF 2 (130m) (2cd)
Christian Vander
, Stella Vander, Guy Khalifa, Isabelle Feuillebois, Emmanuel Borghi, Frédéric Briet,
Pierre Marcault, Marc Delouya, Jean-Claude Buire

Disc 1:

1) Joia (Le Chant Du Sorcier) > Cosmos / A' Fiičh > Les Cygnes > Les Anges - Lush Life > Ehn Deiss - Zuress (piano solo) > Tilim M'Dohm (Ballade Slave) (62:02) *

Disc 2:

1) Another Day > Anta (Chorus De Batterie) > You've Got Have Freedom (68:17) **

* "Lush Life": "...A song interpreted by John Coltrane (...) in a record called Lush Life". "Guy Khalifa au piano".
** "Let me introduce to you Offering"
(Buire, Delouya, Briet, Borghi, Feuillebas, Marcault, S. & C. Vander, Khalifa).

Source: Internet blog download (no further info).
[OFF 2 - Szene Wien - VIENNE - 141187] Flac downloaded from "Zeuhl Music" blog.
Trader's Little helper detects lossy source.
Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm website (Briet?)


1993-03-27 - Le Plessis-Robinson, FR - Amphitheatre Pablo Picasso - aud? - Sans Tambour Ni Trompette - Cristian & Stella Vander with Isabelle Feuillebois - OLD 3 (106m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Stella Vander, Isabelle Feuillebois

1) Love Is > Sands > You Glory The One > Hello > Les Cygnes > J'Ai Du Bon Tabac > Ronde De Nuit (1) - Ronde De Nuit (2) (50:24) *
2) To Love > Sands > C'Est Pour Nous > Le Ballet Des Sorceres > A La Claire Fontaine - Le Temps Passe - announcements - The Night We Died > J'Ai Plonge Dans Les Lacs (56:17) **

* [Fades and cut at 46:25 between "Ronde De Nuit" (parts 1 & 2].
** [Fades out on applause between "A La Claire Fontaine" and "Le Temps Passe" at 35:25. Fades out and cut after announcement at 49:16.].

Source: Internet download (no further info).
[sans_tambour_ni_trompette] Downloaded from "Zeuhl Music" forum.
True lossless source.
Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm website.


2002-04-19 - Besancon, FR - Cylindre - aud? - Christian Vander Quartet (86m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Emmanuel Borghi, Eric Prost, Emmanuel Grimonprez

Disc 1:

1) Naima (13:03) *
2)
Afro-Blue (9:27)
3)
Transition (15:40)
4)
Lonnie's Lament (18:24) **

Disc 2:

1) My Favorite Things - band intro (20:18) ***
2) Impressions (9:27) $

* [Cut at 13:03 on applause].
**  [Cut at 0:00 on applause].
*** "Au saxophone tenore et soprano Eric Prost, a la contabasse Emmanuel Grimonprez, au  piano Emmanuel Borghi, a la batterie Christian Vander...merci...il ne reste pluq que vous dir bonsoir et bonne nuit".
$ Encore.

Source: Internet blog download (no further info).
[CV 4tet Besan__on 2002] Zeuhlmusic blog download.
Source not tested
Ork Alarm website not checked for reference.


2005-11-11 - Les Lilas, FR - Le Triton - session d'automne - aud - Alien Quintet (147m) (2cd)
Christian Vander, Benoit Widemann, Emannuel Borghi, James Mac Gaw, Philippe Bussonet

Disc 1:

1) Sama Layuca (12:21) *
2)
Wild Life (5:34)
3) Fred (2:18)
4) Shunkadelic's (9:57)
5)
Red And Orang (8:36)
6) Dear Mac (9:31)
7)
Presentation Musiciens (24:49) **

Disc 2:

1) The Greeting (10:37)
2)
Coming Back Home (9:12)
3) Snake Oil (8:31)
4)
Torn Of A White Rose (8:23)
5) Un Jour Dans L'Est (7:53)
6)
Opus (10:40)
7) Stratus (11:46)
8)
? (7:33)

* "Le Quartet Alien du batteur (...) Monsieur Christian Vander"
** (Benoit Widemann, Emannuel Borghi, Philippe Bissonet, James Mac Gaw, Christian Vander).

Source: Torrent download, no further info.
[Alien QT - Live Le Triton france 2005-11-11] Torrent on Dime (unsigned info).
No SBE's - Trader's little helper detects lossy source.
Date and venue confirmed by Le Triton website (see event poster above).
Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm website.
A page with 7 pictures by Evelyne Cermolacce from this show can be found on Christian Vander Jazz webiste.


2009-05-14 - Eysines, FR - Eglise D'Eysines - Christian Vander - aud? (mono) OWN 2 (44m)
(2cd)
Christian Vander (piano solo)

Disc 1:

Mono remastered:
1) Félicité Thösz (Extrait I) > Félicité Thösz (Extrait II) - Joia > Les Cygnes Et Les Corbeaux (Extrait I) > Les Cygnes Et Les Corbeaux (Extrait II) > Ügüma Ma Mëlďmëh Gďngeh (44:51)

Disc 2:

Stereo remastered:
1) Félicité Thösz (Extrait I) > Félicité Thösz (Extrait II) - Joia > Les Cygnes Et Les Corbeaux (Extrait I) > Les Cygnes Et Les Corbeaux (Extrait II) > Ügüma Ma Mëlďmëh Gďngeh (44:51)

Bonus video:

1) Félicité Thösz (Extrait I) > Félicité Thösz (Extrait II) (14:32)

Source: Internet download.
[OWN 2 - CHRISTIAN VANDER - EYSINES 14 MAY 2009] Flac (+ mp4 video) dowload from Zeuhl Music Forum.
True lossless source for mono version; Trader's Little Helper detects lossy source for stereo version.
"2 versions: Mono, from the original files that were mono - Stereo, the same with stereo recreated, this adds some clicks in the background because the original files were totally saturated".
Show listed on Ork Alarm website (Le Vigean as venue, recording yet unlisted).


2009-09-26 - Les Lilas, FR - Le Triton - Blue Triton Jazz Festival 6 - aud? (89m) (2cd)
Christian Vander + Stella Vander

Disc 1:

1) Ronde De Nuit (7:31) *
2)
Ügüma Ma Mëlďmëh Gďngeh (6:31)
3)
Joia (10:32)
4)
If You Glory The One (4:20)
5)
Le Peruvien (5:00)
6)
Celui Qui A Donné / Longtemps La Nuit / Le Temps Passe Est Merveilleux (9:40)

Disc 2:

1) Les Cygnes Et Les Corbeaux (10:37)
2)
Félicité Thösz (15:32)
3)
J'ai Plongé Dans Les Lacs (2:37)
4)
C'Est Pour Nous (9:45) *
5)
Le Gospel (5:38)
6) Les Anges De La Nuit  (2:03)

* Stella Vander guest on vocals.

Source: H4 recorder - Audacity.
[Christian Vander solo - Le Triton - 26 septembre 2009] Torrent on Dime (unsigned info).
No SBE's - Trader's little helper detects lossy source.
Date and venue confirmed by Le Triton website (see event poster above). Show and recording listed on Ork Alarm.
A video extract of "C'Est Pour Nous" from this show can be found on Youtube.
13 pictures by Marco Tchamp from this show can be found on Magma Web Press Book webiste.


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